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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Chiang Mai Initiative: China, Japan and financial regionalism</title> <atom:link href="http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/11/the-chiang-mai-initiative-china-japan-and-financial-regionalism/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/11/the-chiang-mai-initiative-china-japan-and-financial-regionalism/</link> <description>Economics, Politics and Public Policy in East Asia and the Pacific</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:23:14 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2</generator> <item><title>By: Joel Rathus</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/11/the-chiang-mai-initiative-china-japan-and-financial-regionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-27599</link> <dc:creator>Joel Rathus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 06:58:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4240#comment-27599</guid> <description>Responding to Lincoln,
Drawing comparisons between the domestic political realm and international financial institutions is fraught with risk. If half of the CMI&#039;s voting weight were to be equally distributed then the ASEAN 5 countries would have more than 40% of the total. It also means that if Korea votes with the ASEAN, then even China and Japan together could not block it.
I can not see this being allowed to happen by either China or Japan.  Especially, as the Northeast Asians have conditioned the better part (80%) of any country&#039;s CMI activation on the IMF approving a stand-by agreement. Any percentage &#039;handed over&#039; to the ASEAN 5 will be purely symbolic and not effect the underlying ability of Japan and China to block disbursement. Moreover, given the tradition within asian insitutions for consensus decision making, the theshold for approval likely to be set high enough that either China or Japan can block.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to Lincoln,<br
/> Drawing comparisons between the domestic political realm and international financial institutions is fraught with risk. If half of the CMI&#8217;s voting weight were to be equally distributed then the ASEAN 5 countries would have more than 40% of the total. It also means that if Korea votes with the ASEAN, then even China and Japan together could not block it.</p><p>I can not see this being allowed to happen by either China or Japan.  Especially, as the Northeast Asians have conditioned the better part (80%) of any country&#8217;s CMI activation on the IMF approving a stand-by agreement. Any percentage &#8216;handed over&#8217; to the ASEAN 5 will be purely symbolic and not effect the underlying ability of Japan and China to block disbursement. Moreover, given the tradition within asian insitutions for consensus decision making, the theshold for approval likely to be set high enough that either China or Japan can block.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lincoln Feng</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/11/the-chiang-mai-initiative-china-japan-and-financial-regionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-27065</link> <dc:creator>Lincoln Feng</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 01:09:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4240#comment-27065</guid> <description>I&#039;d like to propose a new voting mechanism. I work for the Australia federation and there are eight state level governments in Australia. In our work, we often are faced with the question: what is the average policy of the states in a particular area? The following thought has benefited from that work.
The agreement between China and Japan is helpful in progressing the CMI cause and should be congratulated. It is, however, still in the confine of the traditional “power” representation of politics and governance. There is no “breakthrough” in thinking to combine the “representative style” of the IMF voting mechanism and the somewhat more “senate style” voting mechanism of the United Nations. The latter is more reflective of equal rights for every nation, irrespective they are big or small, although it can suffer its own shortcomings.
An alternative to either of those mechanisms is to have a voting mechanism combined both. Half of the votes will be decided by the representative style votes based on economic contributions and the other half by an equal vote of every member. This will give the community more humanitarian flavour and also recognise the economic reality and accountability.
In fact this voting mechanism, if adopted, could be better than or superior to the current parliamentary system of two separate chambers, with the requirement that both have to pass in majority. Indeed, some of the parliamentary dramas in the Australian system where a minority senator can hold the whole parliament and the nation as “hostage” have shown some of the serious shortcomings with that system. Maybe one day they will be reformed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to propose a new voting mechanism. I work for the Australia federation and there are eight state level governments in Australia. In our work, we often are faced with the question: what is the average policy of the states in a particular area? The following thought has benefited from that work.</p><p>The agreement between China and Japan is helpful in progressing the CMI cause and should be congratulated. It is, however, still in the confine of the traditional “power” representation of politics and governance. There is no “breakthrough” in thinking to combine the “representative style” of the IMF voting mechanism and the somewhat more “senate style” voting mechanism of the United Nations. The latter is more reflective of equal rights for every nation, irrespective they are big or small, although it can suffer its own shortcomings.</p><p>An alternative to either of those mechanisms is to have a voting mechanism combined both. Half of the votes will be decided by the representative style votes based on economic contributions and the other half by an equal vote of every member. This will give the community more humanitarian flavour and also recognise the economic reality and accountability.</p><p>In fact this voting mechanism, if adopted, could be better than or superior to the current parliamentary system of two separate chambers, with the requirement that both have to pass in majority. Indeed, some of the parliamentary dramas in the Australian system where a minority senator can hold the whole parliament and the nation as “hostage” have shown some of the serious shortcomings with that system. Maybe one day they will be reformed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Exmond DeCruz</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/11/the-chiang-mai-initiative-china-japan-and-financial-regionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-27049</link> <dc:creator>Exmond DeCruz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 23:36:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4240#comment-27049</guid> <description>What a fascinating and splendid outcome that starkly illustrates the changing world order!
Can&#039;t help thinking we need more problems like this and less of the financial contagion kind.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fascinating and splendid outcome that starkly illustrates the changing world order!<br
/> Can&#8217;t help thinking we need more problems like this and less of the financial contagion kind.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
