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> <channel><title>Comments on: Roos to Japan</title> <atom:link href="http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/25/roos-to-japan/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/25/roos-to-japan/</link> <description>Economics, Politics and Public Policy in East Asia and the Pacific</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:28:35 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2</generator> <item><title>By: Shiro Armstrong</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/25/roos-to-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-31640</link> <dc:creator>Shiro Armstrong</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 23:19:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4511#comment-31640</guid> <description>More from Tobias on this at http://www.observingjapan.com/2009/05/more-on-roos-appointment.html
Considering the appointment of John Roos and other Obama donors to ambassadorial posts, David Rothkopf &lt;a href=&quot;http://rothkopf.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/05/28/do_we_really_need_ambassadors&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;makes&lt;/a&gt; a strong argument against the relevance of ambassadorships in the first place:
&lt;blockquote&gt;For really important relationships, we need permanent high-level representation. But those relationships are comparatively few and in those cases, we need a special breed of highly empowered, highly experienced people...people who look more like Tom Shannon or perhaps Tim Roemer or Jon Huntsman...and not the others. A good rule of thumb might be: If you think a job can go to someone with no regional, diplomatic or relevant national security experience, then perhaps we ought to really be thinking about whether we need the job rather than who should fill it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I think the one mistake Rothkopf makes is overstating the significance of the ambassador&#039;s post in Tokyo. As I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.observingjapan.com/2009/05/roos-to-japan.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;argued&lt;/a&gt; earlier this week, Roos is going to Japan precisely because it is the kind of post that does not demand &quot;a special breed of highly empowered, highly experienced people,&quot; especially now given Japan&#039;s domestic &quot;difficulties.&quot; The challenges facing Roos are of a wholly different nature from the challenges facing Roemer and Huntsman in New Delhi and Beijing respectively. If China and India jobs involve smoothing out problems stemming from the emergence of two colossal powers, the Japan job is the flip side of the coin: constantly reassuring Japan that despite its relative decline, the US-Japan relationship is still important. That is not to say that Roos is not highly empowered — indeed, it appears that he was also in consideration for domestic policy jobs — but that he is high-powered in a different sense from someone like Huntsman who has extensive foreign experience. But Roos should have no problem performing his two most important tasks.
Roos&#039;s number one task is reassuring Japan&#039;s elites that the US will meet its obligations to come to Japan&#039;s defense. That message ultimately has less to do with the messenger than the messenger&#039;s persistence, and the extent to which the messenger has the backing of the administration.
Roos actually may be uniquely capable of managing what could be the other important task of his ambassadorship, welcoming a DPJ-led government into power. As someone removed from the circle of US-Japan alliance insiders, Roos presumably will arrive in Tokyo free of LDP leanings and more open to forging a relationship with the potential governing party. Even if the DPJ does not win this year, it is increasingly a force to be reckoned with in Japanese politics. I hope and trust that Roos will make building a relationship with the DPJ a top priority of his ambassadorship.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More from Tobias on this at <a
href="http://www.observingjapan.com/2009/05/more-on-roos-appointment.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.observingjapan.com/2009/05/more-on-roos-appointment.html</a></p><p>Considering the appointment of John Roos and other Obama donors to ambassadorial posts, David Rothkopf <a
href="http://rothkopf.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/05/28/do_we_really_need_ambassadors" rel="nofollow">makes</a> a strong argument against the relevance of ambassadorships in the first place:</p><blockquote><p>For really important relationships, we need permanent high-level representation. But those relationships are comparatively few and in those cases, we need a special breed of highly empowered, highly experienced people&#8230;people who look more like Tom Shannon or perhaps Tim Roemer or Jon Huntsman&#8230;and not the others. A good rule of thumb might be: If you think a job can go to someone with no regional, diplomatic or relevant national security experience, then perhaps we ought to really be thinking about whether we need the job rather than who should fill it.</p></blockquote><p>I think the one mistake Rothkopf makes is overstating the significance of the ambassador&#8217;s post in Tokyo. As I <a
href="http://www.observingjapan.com/2009/05/roos-to-japan.html" rel="nofollow">argued</a> earlier this week, Roos is going to Japan precisely because it is the kind of post that does not demand &#8220;a special breed of highly empowered, highly experienced people,&#8221; especially now given Japan&#8217;s domestic &#8220;difficulties.&#8221; The challenges facing Roos are of a wholly different nature from the challenges facing Roemer and Huntsman in New Delhi and Beijing respectively. If China and India jobs involve smoothing out problems stemming from the emergence of two colossal powers, the Japan job is the flip side of the coin: constantly reassuring Japan that despite its relative decline, the US-Japan relationship is still important. That is not to say that Roos is not highly empowered — indeed, it appears that he was also in consideration for domestic policy jobs — but that he is high-powered in a different sense from someone like Huntsman who has extensive foreign experience. But Roos should have no problem performing his two most important tasks.</p><p>Roos&#8217;s number one task is reassuring Japan&#8217;s elites that the US will meet its obligations to come to Japan&#8217;s defense. That message ultimately has less to do with the messenger than the messenger&#8217;s persistence, and the extent to which the messenger has the backing of the administration.</p><p>Roos actually may be uniquely capable of managing what could be the other important task of his ambassadorship, welcoming a DPJ-led government into power. As someone removed from the circle of US-Japan alliance insiders, Roos presumably will arrive in Tokyo free of LDP leanings and more open to forging a relationship with the potential governing party. Even if the DPJ does not win this year, it is increasingly a force to be reckoned with in Japanese politics. I hope and trust that Roos will make building a relationship with the DPJ a top priority of his ambassadorship.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LB</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/25/roos-to-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-31518</link> <dc:creator>LB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 09:25:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4511#comment-31518</guid> <description>@Aurelia - I am no fan of the DPRK, but sorry - &quot;genocide&quot;?  What ethnic or religious group has the DPRK been systematically attempting to exterminate?  &quot;Murder&quot; or &quot;mass-murder&quot; I would agree with you on.  But &quot;genocide&quot;?
Still, your basic point is valid, although I would say that BOTH China AND the DPRK should be facing pressure - with perhaps a bit thrown in on the Russians as well.  But since China makes all the cheap stuff the world apparently needs to survive nowadays, I wouldn&#039;t count on them facing pressure any time soon.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aurelia &#8211; I am no fan of the DPRK, but sorry &#8211; &#8220;genocide&#8221;?  What ethnic or religious group has the DPRK been systematically attempting to exterminate?  &#8220;Murder&#8221; or &#8220;mass-murder&#8221; I would agree with you on.  But &#8220;genocide&#8221;?</p><p>Still, your basic point is valid, although I would say that BOTH China AND the DPRK should be facing pressure &#8211; with perhaps a bit thrown in on the Russians as well.  But since China makes all the cheap stuff the world apparently needs to survive nowadays, I wouldn&#8217;t count on them facing pressure any time soon.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aurelia George Mulgan</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/25/roos-to-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-31449</link> <dc:creator>Aurelia George Mulgan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:51:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4511#comment-31449</guid> <description>To take the discussion back to China&#039;s role in relation to North Korea: I think everyone is agreed that China is the only country that is in a position to exercise real leverage over North Korea. But what does it do? It props up the Kim Jong Il regime on the pretext of preventing an influx of NKorean refugees across its border. In so doing, China connives with the North in imprisoning the North Koreans in their own country - as potential victims of a regime that is guilty of genocide. It seems to me that it is China that should be bearing the brunt of international pressure over NKorean behaviour, rather than the NKoreans. The position that China has cleverly positioned itself into, however, is quite the reverse - as a judicious mediator and presider over the six-party talks where the Japanese, South Koreans and Americans are the supplicants and the North Koreans are the supplicated i.e. it is the referee maintaining the status quo. Pretty good job if you can get it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To take the discussion back to China&#8217;s role in relation to North Korea: I think everyone is agreed that China is the only country that is in a position to exercise real leverage over North Korea. But what does it do? It props up the Kim Jong Il regime on the pretext of preventing an influx of NKorean refugees across its border. In so doing, China connives with the North in imprisoning the North Koreans in their own country &#8211; as potential victims of a regime that is guilty of genocide. It seems to me that it is China that should be bearing the brunt of international pressure over NKorean behaviour, rather than the NKoreans. The position that China has cleverly positioned itself into, however, is quite the reverse &#8211; as a judicious mediator and presider over the six-party talks where the Japanese, South Koreans and Americans are the supplicants and the North Koreans are the supplicated i.e. it is the referee maintaining the status quo. Pretty good job if you can get it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LB</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/25/roos-to-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-31296</link> <dc:creator>LB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:43:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4511#comment-31296</guid> <description>@Shiro - it could just as well be argued, and in my opinion better argued, that it was the US that dropped the ball by focusing on the nuclear issue to the exclusion of all else.  The US originally went after the DPRK for:
Counterfeiting US currency on a massive scale
Drug-running
Exporting WMDs
Supporting and conducting terrorism (which includes the Japanese abduction issue)
Building nuclear weapons
DPRK assets were frozen.  Their ships were subject to search on the high seas. The US had them designated as a State Supporter of Terrorism .  The US had a lot of cards to play, and what did it do?  It focused on the nuclear issue, an important issue to be sure but just one of many, and frittered away what leverage it had.  It gave the DPRK their money back.  Delisted them as a sponsor of terrorism.  Japan also made a mistake - not listening to what the US was saying.  Celebrating a US statement that they would support Japan&#039;s position on the abduction issue, while ignoring the qualifier Armitage himself uttered: &quot;as best we can&quot;.  Not &quot;unequivocally&quot;, but &quot;We got your back - until we decide it is better to do something else.&quot;  Now, I expect no less of diplomats and bureaucrats, and I certainly don&#039;t expect any nation to support another nation&#039;s interests at the expense of its own, but it was a bit ridiculous to hear the US side chastise Japan for &quot;not seeing the big picture&quot; and &quot;focusing on one issue&quot; while they themselves were ignoring every other issue except the nuclear one, and bending over backwards to give the DPRK whatever it wanted so long as they promised (yet again) to dismantle their nuclear program.
Mark, THAT is what we call an &quot;incompetent administration&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shiro &#8211; it could just as well be argued, and in my opinion better argued, that it was the US that dropped the ball by focusing on the nuclear issue to the exclusion of all else.  The US originally went after the DPRK for:<br
/> Counterfeiting US currency on a massive scale<br
/> Drug-running<br
/> Exporting WMDs<br
/> Supporting and conducting terrorism (which includes the Japanese abduction issue)<br
/> Building nuclear weapons</p><p>DPRK assets were frozen.  Their ships were subject to search on the high seas. The US had them designated as a State Supporter of Terrorism .  The US had a lot of cards to play, and what did it do?  It focused on the nuclear issue, an important issue to be sure but just one of many, and frittered away what leverage it had.  It gave the DPRK their money back.  Delisted them as a sponsor of terrorism.  Japan also made a mistake &#8211; not listening to what the US was saying.  Celebrating a US statement that they would support Japan&#8217;s position on the abduction issue, while ignoring the qualifier Armitage himself uttered: &#8220;as best we can&#8221;.  Not &#8220;unequivocally&#8221;, but &#8220;We got your back &#8211; until we decide it is better to do something else.&#8221;  Now, I expect no less of diplomats and bureaucrats, and I certainly don&#8217;t expect any nation to support another nation&#8217;s interests at the expense of its own, but it was a bit ridiculous to hear the US side chastise Japan for &#8220;not seeing the big picture&#8221; and &#8220;focusing on one issue&#8221; while they themselves were ignoring every other issue except the nuclear one, and bending over backwards to give the DPRK whatever it wanted so long as they promised (yet again) to dismantle their nuclear program.</p><p>Mark, THAT is what we call an &#8220;incompetent administration&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lincoln Fung</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/25/roos-to-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-31183</link> <dc:creator>Lincoln Fung</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 02:35:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4511#comment-31183</guid> <description>Aurelia, that would be a very interesting trade between Ausstralia and Japan, at the expense of the Greens and the RSPCA, perhaps. Not sure how much the total trade values could be, though, probably very small.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aurelia, that would be a very interesting trade between Ausstralia and Japan, at the expense of the Greens and the RSPCA, perhaps. Not sure how much the total trade values could be, though, probably very small.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aurelia George Mulgan</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/25/roos-to-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-30986</link> <dc:creator>Aurelia George Mulgan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 07:37:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4511#comment-30986</guid> <description>To add a brief touch of levity: when I first saw the title &#039;Roos to Japan&#039;, I immediately thought that Australia had found a new export market for kangaroo meat in Japan - about as likely as Japan finding a new export for whalemeat in Australia.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add a brief touch of levity: when I first saw the title &#8216;Roos to Japan&#8217;, I immediately thought that Australia had found a new export market for kangaroo meat in Japan &#8211; about as likely as Japan finding a new export for whalemeat in Australia.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lincoln Fung</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/25/roos-to-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-30907</link> <dc:creator>Lincoln Fung</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 00:54:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4511#comment-30907</guid> <description>I am sorry that I misspelled the word indict to induct. So I&#039;d like to correct those two words in my reply to Mulgan. You would excuse me for my poor English - my second language.
Also I&#039;d like to add the following to that reply:
That approach will make sure both that any significant breaches of international laws can be prosecuted and that the system of international court is not abused by any individual country. What are those laws for? They are there for countries and people to abide. If any one does not, then there should be a workable mechanism to enforce those international laws. That is the point I want to make.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry that I misspelled the word indict to induct. So I&#8217;d like to correct those two words in my reply to Mulgan. You would excuse me for my poor English &#8211; my second language.</p><p>Also I&#8217;d like to add the following to that reply:</p><p>That approach will make sure both that any significant breaches of international laws can be prosecuted and that the system of international court is not abused by any individual country. What are those laws for? They are there for countries and people to abide. If any one does not, then there should be a workable mechanism to enforce those international laws. That is the point I want to make.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lincoln Fung</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/25/roos-to-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-30886</link> <dc:creator>Lincoln Fung</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:07:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4511#comment-30886</guid> <description>I can&#039;t answer the question that Aurelia George Mulgan asked of me. That is a question for China. What I&#039;d like to say is that why don&#039;t the international community use the international court system to induct the leaders of the current NK regime, if they have violated internatinal laws, as US president Obama has said? I think the security council should authorise the international prosecutors to do that and put pressures on the current NK leaderships.
I think this might be a good way to enforce international laws. In a case involving head of government or state, it should be authorised by the security council before any inductment being made.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t answer the question that Aurelia George Mulgan asked of me. That is a question for China. What I&#8217;d like to say is that why don&#8217;t the international community use the international court system to induct the leaders of the current NK regime, if they have violated internatinal laws, as US president Obama has said? I think the security council should authorise the international prosecutors to do that and put pressures on the current NK leaderships.</p><p>I think this might be a good way to enforce international laws. In a case involving head of government or state, it should be authorised by the security council before any inductment being made.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aurelia George Mulgan</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/25/roos-to-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-30692</link> <dc:creator>Aurelia George Mulgan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 09:17:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4511#comment-30692</guid> <description>I don&#039;t see that Roos is any different from Schieffer (another rich backer - except, in his case, it was for the other side). Why should Japan hope for more? It should understand the way the American political system works - you donate big, you get rewarded big.
On the issue raised by Lincoln Fung,  I wonder if China welcomes a troublesome North Korea so long as it does not become troublesome for China.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see that Roos is any different from Schieffer (another rich backer &#8211; except, in his case, it was for the other side). Why should Japan hope for more? It should understand the way the American political system works &#8211; you donate big, you get rewarded big.</p><p>On the issue raised by Lincoln Fung,  I wonder if China welcomes a troublesome North Korea so long as it does not become troublesome for China.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lincoln Fung</title><link>http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/05/25/roos-to-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-30626</link> <dc:creator>Lincoln Fung</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 02:51:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=4511#comment-30626</guid> <description>I should add the following to my earlier comments, because it is essential for a viable and permanent solution to the peace and stability of the region.
An important part to the solution of NK nuclear issue lies in a peace agreement for the region acceptable to all the members of the region. The US, China, Russia and the two Koreas must establish such a new arrangement for the peace and stability of the Korea peninsular. Some key components of such a new peace agreement need to include the collective guarantee by the US, China and Russia, of the security of the two Koreas, if that is what the two sides want and the consequential withdrawal of the US forces from the peninsular. The withdrawal of the US forces is premised on the security guarrantee of the South side from the agreement. Only this will create a long lasting peace and stability in the North East Asia region. How the two Koreas achieve their unification is a matter for them to sort out.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add the following to my earlier comments, because it is essential for a viable and permanent solution to the peace and stability of the region.</p><p>An important part to the solution of NK nuclear issue lies in a peace agreement for the region acceptable to all the members of the region. The US, China, Russia and the two Koreas must establish such a new arrangement for the peace and stability of the Korea peninsular. Some key components of such a new peace agreement need to include the collective guarantee by the US, China and Russia, of the security of the two Koreas, if that is what the two sides want and the consequential withdrawal of the US forces from the peninsular. The withdrawal of the US forces is premised on the security guarrantee of the South side from the agreement. Only this will create a long lasting peace and stability in the North East Asia region. How the two Koreas achieve their unification is a matter for them to sort out.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
