Comments on: Renewed tension on the India-China border: Who’s to blame? http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/09/03/renewed-tension-on-the-india-china-border-whos-to-blame/ Economics, Politics and Public Policy in East Asia and the Pacific Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:50:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: Varun Shekharhttp://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/09/03/renewed-tension-on-the-india-china-border-whos-to-blame/comment-page-1/#comment-797043 Varun Shekhar Sat, 07 May 2011 17:21:24 +0000 http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=6790#comment-797043 The real solution is an independent, democratic, pluralistic Tibet, which is closely tied to India economically, politically and culturally. India will stress the importance of people, freedom, democracy and culture, and India's ancient influence on that culture, whereas China only thinks and cares about territory, empire, military presence, the politbureau, the Communist party, and of course the coldest and driest legality, itself highly questionable! The real solution is an independent, democratic, pluralistic Tibet, which is closely tied to India economically, politically and culturally. India will stress the importance of people, freedom, democracy and culture, and India’s ancient influence on that culture, whereas China only thinks and cares about territory, empire, military presence, the politbureau, the Communist party, and of course the coldest and driest legality, itself highly questionable!

]]> By: Puneet Kumarhttp://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/09/03/renewed-tension-on-the-india-china-border-whos-to-blame/comment-page-1/#comment-357727 Puneet Kumar Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:04:51 +0000 http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=6790#comment-357727 China has not been able to solve boundary disputes with all the major nations, Japan, Russia and India. This does speak something of China's foreign policy, doesn't it? They have forced decisions on relatively small countries. And you can't possibly assume that they can force their decisions on Japan and India. So Mr. Khahra, please do some comparative analysis before navigating to a conclusion. There is only one flaw in Ravi's response. He falls short in criticizing China and their policies. The only reason China is wary of India now is due to increased reluctance shown by the latter, for India have realized their economical and political strength. The authors view and opinion are as biased as they are flawed. How articulately author has put all the blames of Asian regional tensions on India is commendable. But dear author, there was the time when such writing skills were even more effective than it is now, the Nazi era in Germany, and we are not oblivious to the extent of atrocities of that time. Hence, please reconquer the ethical ground that a writer of your caliber should never have left, and include all the facts and data from both sides before bestowing your support for an argument. China has not been able to solve boundary disputes with all the major nations, Japan, Russia and India. This does speak something of China’s foreign policy, doesn’t it? They have forced decisions on relatively small countries. And you can’t possibly assume that they can force their decisions on Japan and India. So Mr. Khahra, please do some comparative analysis before navigating to a conclusion. There is only one flaw in Ravi’s response. He falls short in criticizing China and their policies. The only reason China is wary of India now is due to increased reluctance shown by the latter, for India have realized their economical and political strength. The authors view and opinion are as biased as they are flawed. How articulately author has put all the blames of Asian regional tensions on India is commendable. But dear author, there was the time when such writing skills were even more effective than it is now, the Nazi era in Germany, and we are not oblivious to the extent of atrocities of that time. Hence, please reconquer the ethical ground that a writer of your caliber should never have left, and include all the facts and data from both sides before bestowing your support for an argument.

]]> By: jagdeep khahrahttp://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/09/03/renewed-tension-on-the-india-china-border-whos-to-blame/comment-page-1/#comment-117992 jagdeep khahra Tue, 18 May 2010 13:06:15 +0000 http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=6790#comment-117992 A good article. Ravi's protestations are same old story of 'right or wrong my country.' Even right wing commentators on India China war do not dispute the fact that in 1962 it was India which started the war. The very fact that the Chinese have solved their boundaries with all neighbours except India and India has boundary dispute with both major neighbours says something about our (India's) foreign policy. India -China border will be ultimately solved on give and take policy. By refusing to do so India has already inflicted enough damage. It is time we wake up to the facts. A good article. Ravi’s protestations are same old story of ‘right or wrong my country.’
Even right wing commentators on India China war do not dispute the fact that in 1962 it was India which started the war.
The very fact that the Chinese have solved their boundaries with all neighbours except India and India has boundary dispute with both major neighbours says something about our (India’s) foreign policy.

India -China border will be ultimately solved on give and take policy. By refusing to do so India has already inflicted enough damage. It is time we wake up to the facts.

]]> By: ravihttp://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/09/03/renewed-tension-on-the-india-china-border-whos-to-blame/comment-page-1/#comment-58163 ravi Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:14:51 +0000 http://www.eastasiaforum.org/?p=6790#comment-58163 One has to do an objective analysis of problems. The article in a very skillful manner picks facts selectively to support the argument of the author. It is argued that India has provoked China by reinforcing its army and air force. It is true that India has been reinforcing its armed forces. But, is India provocating China or merely responding to the provocations of China?. The border is not properly demarcated, hence forces of either countries might at times cross over. But, there is a great deal of difference between crossing inadvertantly and crossing with a purpose. If one would do proper research about the incursions by China, it would be quite evident that they are done with a purpose. China has developped massive infrastructure till the last border outpost along the border, which would enable it to move divisions of army at a lightening speed. China has been modernising its military, its space warfare and cyber warfare in a massive way, which would make any sensible nation doubt the intentions behind. The author talks of 1987 skirmish and blames India for it. Here again facts are ignored. Int 1986, the Chinese have again started establishing the border outposts in the land(which is under Indian control and which is disputed by Chinese). This forced India to be prepared for possible conflict. The author argues that except with India, China has resolved it border conflict with most of the countries. Currently, India and China are pursuing the talks through special representatives of the respective governaments. The talks are struck because of unreasonable Chinese position. The bileteral agreement between the two countries states that there would be no exchange of populated areas between the two countries. The Chinese have gone back on this and are claiming Tawang(which is populated) to be theirs. The claim to Tawang is a recent one. There is suspicsion that China does not want the bordere dispute to be settled as it wants it to be used as a stick to put pressure on India in matters dealing with his holiness Dalai Lama. I have to say that the language used is very objectionable. The author argues "Defeat did not change India's policy, that remained locked into refusal to negotiate". He remains silent on the way China attacked India, the way they shocked India with a war, the smart way in which they unilaterally decided to pull back, when their troops were streached and the American help came in for India. Chinese groomed Pakistan to balance India. They indulged in nuclear and missile proliferation to Pakistan to contain India. They adopt the string of pearls strategy to encircle India. They set up their bases in the vicinity of India like in Bangladesh, Pakistan, Myanmar etc. Inspite of all this, if India decides to upgrade its military presense, it is termed as provocating China. One has to do an objective analysis of problems.

The article in a very skillful manner picks facts selectively to support the argument of the author. It is argued that India has provoked China by reinforcing its army and air force. It is true that India has been reinforcing its armed forces. But, is India provocating China or merely responding to the provocations of China?. The border is not properly demarcated, hence forces of either countries might at times cross over. But, there is a great deal of difference between crossing inadvertantly and crossing with a purpose. If one would do proper research about the incursions by China, it would be quite evident that they are done with a purpose. China has developped massive infrastructure till the last border outpost along the border, which would enable it to move divisions of army at a lightening speed. China has been modernising its military, its space warfare and cyber warfare in a massive way, which would make any sensible nation doubt the intentions behind.

The author talks of 1987 skirmish and blames India for it. Here again facts are ignored. Int 1986, the Chinese have again started establishing the border outposts in the land(which is under Indian control and which is disputed by Chinese). This forced India to be prepared for possible conflict.

The author argues that except with India, China has resolved it border conflict with most of the countries. Currently, India and China are pursuing the talks through special representatives of the respective governaments. The talks are struck because of unreasonable Chinese position. The bileteral agreement between the two countries states that there would be no exchange of populated areas between the two countries. The Chinese have gone back on this and are claiming Tawang(which is populated) to be theirs.
The claim to Tawang is a recent one. There is suspicsion that China does not want the bordere dispute to be settled as it wants it to be used as a stick to put pressure on India in matters dealing with his holiness Dalai Lama.

I have to say that the language used is very objectionable. The author argues “Defeat did not change India’s policy, that remained locked into refusal to negotiate”. He remains silent on the way China attacked India, the way they shocked India with a war, the smart way in which they unilaterally decided to pull back, when their troops were streached and the American help came in for India.

Chinese groomed Pakistan to balance India. They indulged in nuclear and missile proliferation to Pakistan to contain India. They adopt the string of pearls strategy to encircle India. They set up their bases in the vicinity of India like in Bangladesh, Pakistan, Myanmar etc. Inspite of all this, if India decides to upgrade its military presense, it is termed as provocating China.

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